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  • #4303

    Anthony Andrews
    Member

    Who uses The Hoth? What are your thoughts (Good or Bad)?

  • #4304

    Sarah Radford
    Member

    Loved Knightrider…

  • #4305

    Peter Wootton
    Keymaster

    I used the Hoth for 6 months and found the link services to be excellent. The guest post ain’t that great to be honest and content pieces were just OK.

    • #4306

      Peter Wootton
      Keymaster

      What link services did you use?

    • #4307

      Peter Wootton
      Keymaster

      When you say excellent… did you see significant rankings improvement?

    • #4308

      Simon Chapman
      Member

      When you say excellent why did you stop after 6 months?

    • #4309

      Colin Hodgson
      Member

      Good point. I have used them in past and wasn’t too thrilled.

    • #4310

      Peter Wootton
      Keymaster

      I did see marginal DA improvements

    • #4311

      Katharine Hodkinson
      Member

      We reached our targets for rankings so we switched to in an house capacity

    • #4312

      Peter Wootton
      Keymaster

      ok – that probably is a cheaper option.

    • #4313

      Sarah Radford
      Member

      I agree to an extent. For me the content was less than okay, it actually sucked.

  • #4314

    Peter Wootton
    Keymaster

    I’ve used them for the blog content for when I need quantity. The rest of the services are quite overpriced. The blitz does next to nothing also.

  • #4315

    Lynne Haskell
    Member

    I’ve heard many good things about them. I use their site for information as they provide a lot of value. I do find their packages a bit confusing though.

  • #4316

    Colin Hodgson
    Member

    Great for citation clean up.

  • #4317

    Benjamin Donner
    Member

    I had them delete all the link building i bought.

    • #4318

      Peter Wootton
      Keymaster

      Was there a reason for that?

    • #4319

      Peter Wootton
      Keymaster

      Because it was sh*t 🙂 It would not be future proof for sure.

    • #4320

      Simon Chapman
      Member

      It was not a guest posting service

    • #4321

      Colin Hodgson
      Member

      What did you base that on? The sites that were providing the inbound links? The text that was used?

      I guess I’m wondering because I just received my first report from them for inbound links. The sites themselves looked sketchy AF, but they all had REALLY good DA…70+ and 80+. I was a little surprised, but I used a third party to check DA…not The Hoth’s own tool.

    • #4322

      Neil Ludlow
      Member

      They were link farmy, not usable for any purpose for any human ever. Completely artificial.

    • #4323

      Nadine Cairns
      Member

      Careful of heavily weighing your link profile on high DA links…Google wants to see a natural looking link profile and a high concentration of high DA links is not natural and can get you stung…

  • #4324

    Peter Wootton
    Keymaster

    Expensive

  • #4325

    Peter Wootton
    Keymaster

    Spam. PBN.

  • #4326

    Sarah Radford
    Member

    Any recommended alternatives?

    • #4327

      Colin Hodgson
      Member

      Serplogic

    • #4328

      Nadine Cairns
      Member

      As an alternative I’d recommend PointVisible.com.100% outreach based links. No PBNs, no pre-made lists or anything similar. I’m a co-founder and might be biased but, if this helps, we do have 100% positive reviews on TrustPilot. I’d be happy to show some samples or explain our workflow if someone’s looking for outreach based links.

  • #4329

    Katharine Hodkinson
    Member

    The Hoth sucks. Stop building low quality links. Invest in high quality PBNs. Try one of the exclusive PBN services like NinjaLinks if you are serious about ranking.

    • #4330

      Peter Wootton
      Keymaster

      I got nothing when I Googled “NinjaLinks”. That’s not a good sign.

    • #4331

      Nadine Cairns
      Member

      It’s exclusive for good reason, it’s .net in case you are wondering.

    • #4332

      Peter Wootton
      Keymaster

      Most good PBN’s are not listed, have a robots and almost 99% of the time requires an invite to keep the riff raff out… SAPE was that a few years ago before every Tom, Dick, Harry and Barry jumped on that.

    • #4333

      Lynne Haskell
      Member

      Agreed, SAPE did a poor job of filtering / restricting it’s members.

    • #4334

      Sarah Radford
      Member

      Correct me if I am wrong but is Google now looking at penalising PBN’s ?

    • #4335

      Peter Wootton
      Keymaster

      They always do.. it’s strictly against their T&C’s.

    • #4336

      Simon Chapman
      Member

      So why do these agencies exist, according to PosiRank they don’t use PBN’s has anyone here used PosiRank?

    • #4337

      Katharine Hodkinson
      Member

      It exists because there is still value in offsite contextual link-building unfortunately. Better ways of getting value personally.

    • #4338

      Judith Atkinson
      Member

      So would you use an outsourced link building service who use a PBN. The problem we have right now is that we need to implement good back-link strategies but are stretched for resources, I would love to hear what you think or PM me, thanks

    • #4339

      Sarah Radford
      Member

      Will send a PM, but i have found a very good omni channel content strategy is FAR more valuable than crappy links. When placing a link you have to look at C class IP blocks, traffic stats, etc… not just about DA, PA and all that. Those signals can be gamed and working out a ROAS on link building is fruitless.

    • #4340

      Neil Ludlow
      Member

      Thanks, I appreciate the help on this one.

    • #4341

      Colin Hodgson
      Member

      Could you please send me a PM re: omni channel content strategy – Many thanks!

    • #4342

      Nadine Cairns
      Member

      Anyone who comes within 100 feet of ANY PBN’s at this point is gambling with the livelihood of their clients. Way too dangerous…

  • #4343

    Peter Wootton
    Keymaster

    Interesting, they have good reviews. What are better alternatives?

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